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Evie, Poppy and Pat. Three wonderfull Walker children. I love them dearly but need to do them justice.

This is an example of me out of my comfort zone when both photographing and processing!

I need to know 2 things :

1 - How do you approach photographing children or people, what tricks/tips do you have

2 - I think that this is a decent photograph but nut a great one. Over the next couple of posts, I really would appreciate your total honesty but please tell me what you would have done differently.

If you are really bored I'll e-mail you the raw file and you could work the photo your way?

This version is straight from the can with no PS, the shot was taken in b/w mode with the in camera red filter on and the sharpening set on 4.

Update : I incorrectly mentioned that the there had been no PS. The image had been sharpened in PS, I had forgotten

All the best

Mal

EPP

Evie, Poppy and Pat. Three wonderfull Walker children. I love them dearly but need to do them justice.

This is an example of me out of my comfort zone when both photographing and processing!

I need to know 2 things :

1 - How do you approach photographing children or people, what tricks/tips do you have

2 - I think that this is a decent photograph but nut a great one. Over the next couple of posts, I really would appreciate your total honesty but please tell me what you would have done differently.

If you are really bored I'll e-mail you the raw file and you could work the photo your way?

This version is straight from the can with no PS, the shot was taken in b/w mode with the in camera red filter on and the sharpening set on 4.

Update : I incorrectly mentioned that the there had been no PS. The image had been sharpened in PS, I had forgotten

All the best

Mal

comments (11)

  • atunbi
  • United Kingdom
  • 15 Sep 2006, 02:04
No PP can't believe it. That 5D is really one cracker of a camera. Mal r u pulling our legs here on shutter?
Mal: Hey Atunbi, eagle eyes the shot was sharpened, I had forgotten this fact in the Canon converter. My comments have been corrected. All the best Mal
hey mal,

we seem to be on the same wave length with the people photos. i really wish i could offer you some advice, but i am seemingly as uncomfortable and inexperienced in photographing people as you. however, i will tell you what i really like about this shot...love the conversion to b/w. i also really like the angle from which you shot this, and i also really like the focus on the kid in the foreground and the blurred effect of the other kids in the background. really nice work.
Mal: Hey Nicole, we do seem to be fighting the same fight. The decent shots that I get of people are nearly always an accident, I'm just trying to hone down that accident factor! Some people are at ease poking a camera in someones face but I am not and it is a hard fear to overcome. thank you Nicole (not Chris), I still cringe when I remember saying that sorry. All the best Mal
  • nev
  • Australia
  • 15 Sep 2006, 06:42
Mal difficult one. I have never formally photographed kids. i try with my own (emphasis on try). At the moment i take a couple of shots of them and they get to take some of me. if we're lucky between us all someone gets a good shot. If you are going to formally sit kids you have to have it all ready to go. Most of the time the best shots are when they are running around being kids. I think one photographers trick with little kids was to stick something like sticky tape on their finger so they had something to distract them. Having some of their toys might help. For little ones maybe taking off their shoes or taking off one shoe and getting to take the other off. Sometimes getting them to try and copy you works. In your shot i can see bubby is young so maybe getting the two older ones to try and talk/play with the younger one in center might work. try and find an angle around them. Getting them to try and sit is going to bore them very quickly. Maybe take some shots where they can be doing things like sandpit/beach/park when you can be an observer. Some of the nicest shots of my kids are where they are sitting at the beach just doing their own thing. where you are the voyeur. I think your shot is lovely. maybe individuals photos could be a goer and just have tryptic. How about getting oldest child to try and get younger ones to do what they are doing. give them a big hat. perhaps give them a good old aussie prop wink like something wiggles. best of british luck mal.
Mal: Hey Nev, you are on typing overload today!! ;-) You are right in what you say and I really do appreciate your input, you have actually thought about what I am trying to achieve. Perhaps the hat that I should employ would be a wide brimmed Australian one with corks on!!! - Love your humour mate and best of Aussie to you. Talk soon. Mal
I think it's really a great one, 3 littles heads in a row. I can't really answer your question I don't take picture of kids! I really like this picture, but there is something with the framing to tell you honestly that 's disturbing I can't pinpoint it though.
Mal: Hey Frederic, you may be on to something, I think that my slight dislike of the photo was a compositional issue. I now feel that Patrick at the back of the shot looks really uncomfortable and awkward. All the best Frederic. Mal
  • Mr Skee
  • SkeeTown (SL)
  • 15 Sep 2006, 08:57
I have a rather busy day today.....rushing to work ( Late.. . don't tell anyone lol ) I will try to answer your questions maybe this weekend smile you can email me the file as well smile

Enjoy your weekend!
Mal: Hey Skee, cant get it through. Have a great and chilled week end. Mal
This kind of pic is well out of my comfort zone too but an area I need to learn lots about. In my opinion the eyes are definitely the most important thing - they should always be as sharp as poss on your main subject - something you've done a great job of here. I love the highlights in the eyes too. The depth of field you have here is great covering the first child nicely and still blurring the two in the bg.
Mal: Hey Tris, you've got no excuse to be out of comfort zone with lovely child at hand. All the best. Mal

P.S. Have you scratched that itch?
  • Samarth
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 15 Sep 2006, 17:37
First of all...lovely shot....8.5/10
1- make the shot spontaneous, never pose kids up, that AlWAYS works....
2- the thing is that all children photos look fantastic and thats why the have the potential to become something absolutely stellar....to do that what i would normally do is accentuate on their feature...focus on the smile, deepen the eyes etc.
cr=9/10
Mal: Hey Samarth, exactly the type of tips and feedback I'm looking for. All the best Mal
Photographing kids is a challenge. it is also a numbers game. Take lots of images, with digital you need a camera with quick reactions. Make sure parents stand right behind you otherwise getting the childs attention will be difficult. Have a squeeky toy or a whistle to attract their attention. White background and a fill in flash unless you are using a studio setup. Oh yes and a lot of luck. Best of luck.

This image is a good start. If you wanted to be critical it would have been good if all the kids had been looking at the camera, thats where the luck comes in.
Mal: Exactly the input I'm looking for Mr Digi, Just looked at the wedding shots, some beauties in there. Mal
Beautiful!
  • deji77
  • United Kingdom
  • 17 Sep 2006, 08:14
Like this a lot. The expression on his face is lovely.
Though I think the DOF is a tad bit too shallow.
Mal: HEY Oladeji, always appreciate constuctive comments and I think that you are right on this issue but the light was low and it was hand held and I hate digital grain so a shallow DOP was my only option. Thank you Oladeji. Mal
  • Sysagent
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 17 Sep 2006, 22:10
This is a fantastic shot, the 5D is truely a wonderful camera and I just wish I could afford one...

There is nothing to fault at all with this shot.
Mal: Hey Sys', my pocket don't think that it's a great camera! Still suffering. All the best Mal

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