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Chris

Meet Chris - AKA Craggy old man!

This was taken at Mike's party back in July, around the camp fire. I was wandering around the fire using flash but thought I would try to capture some stuff just using the fire light and the camera mounted on a tripod. Chris posed for me and stayed perfectly still for 3 seconds! I'm actually pleased with the results. It's grainy/noisy but I think that it probably suits the capture.

Technical Question of you all.

I capture all images in Raw format and have been using the Canon file viewer to do basic adjustments, then convert to TIFF. I have read a lot about other Raw converters. What I would like to know is - What Raw converter do you use and why? What advantages do other Raw converters give me? Plus, is there any way to reduce the noise in this image?

As always, all comments welcome (especially funny ones).

All the best Mal

Chris

Meet Chris - AKA Craggy old man!

This was taken at Mike's party back in July, around the camp fire. I was wandering around the fire using flash but thought I would try to capture some stuff just using the fire light and the camera mounted on a tripod. Chris posed for me and stayed perfectly still for 3 seconds! I'm actually pleased with the results. It's grainy/noisy but I think that it probably suits the capture.

Technical Question of you all.

I capture all images in Raw format and have been using the Canon file viewer to do basic adjustments, then convert to TIFF. I have read a lot about other Raw converters. What I would like to know is - What Raw converter do you use and why? What advantages do other Raw converters give me? Plus, is there any way to reduce the noise in this image?

As always, all comments welcome (especially funny ones).

All the best Mal

comments (20)

I use C1Pro....love the output compared to the rest.

Lovely shot.
Mal: Thank you Jide. Mal
  • nev
  • Australia
  • 12 Oct 2006, 00:44
very nice shot mal, very atmospheric. i think the noise adds to the shot. I use the photoshop converter and was really unhappy with the colours. Then i stopped and had a think about what i was doing. With my pc at home because i had it configured for print i wasn't using the srgb colour space which is all the browsers can really use. *bang on head*
So for me colour has returned which is nice. no need for conversion to tif to jpeg for me plus in cs2 it has that nice straighten tool. i have used c1 but not extensively. A low Dust and scratches filter will smooth some of the noise out, as should despeckle
Mal: Thank's Nev, so are you in srgb for everything then? Mal
  • Mr Skee
  • SkeeTown (SL)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 01:12
Nice shot especially in b/w, I don't really like this angle...I think it makes Chris look like Brainiac, as it puts too much emphasis on his forehead.

Raw coverters... I think i've tried all the ones available to mac users. I restrict myself now to use C1pro and canons DPP. Waiting for next yr when C1pro v4 is released. Pity they'll must probably tel us to pay again... on the downside, C1 is very expensive.
Mal: If you met him Mr Skee, your suspisions would be confirmed. Mal
  • Suby
  • UK, Milton Keynes
  • 12 Oct 2006, 02:49
I use either C1pro or CS2, I however prefer CS2, but thats just me.

Suby
Mal: Thank you Suby. Mal
  • Sidney
  • Philippines
  • 12 Oct 2006, 06:42
Nice portrait! A bit drunk? ;-)
Perfect b&w!
Mal: Hey Sidney, we were both very drunk! Thank you. All the best Mal
I really like your pics Mal. Every morning, except during the week end smile, they make me think instinctively, I try to think what this picture can be associate to. Only your pictures make me do it though.
Frédéric
Mal: What can I Say Frederic but thank you. Going to be out of town after tomorrows image. All the best Mal
Nice shot Mal. I wouldn’t worry about removing the grain as it really adds to the image. I also doubt you'd be-able to remove it satisfactorily so I'd keep it as a feature.

As for RAW converters - I use the built in photoshop one. I does everything I could ever need.

I friend who is a professional photographer recently emailed me his
thoughts on Capture One:

"Capture One is a raw specific piece of software http://
www.phaseone.com/ which I use for processing files most of the time. It is much quicker to use the Photoshop as you can stack up images so that they process in the background. Quality wise there is not much difference although Photoshop is better at recovering highlights should you need to. But in terms of speed and ease of use it is much better."

Looking forward to seeing that Saltwick bay pic!
Mal: Thanks Tris, It's been interesting getting the various views on this issue. The Saltwick image is not a Hebridean God sent wonder, so don't hold your breath. Mal
  • paul
  • United Kingdom
  • 12 Oct 2006, 11:17
The grain is definitely a plus here.

I used to use Adobe's RAW converter before upgrading to the 400d - they haven't brought out a version that can cope with it so far so I am stuck using the software that came with the camera which I don't much like
Mal: Thank's Paul, it was the same when the 5D came out, it took adobe a little time to catch up. Mal
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:22
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:22
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:23
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:23
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
Mal: Great minds think alike - small ones rarely differ!

But he is noisy and grainy and old! x
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:24
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:31
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!

Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Lisa
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 12:38
Excellent! As I was wandering into work this morning thinking Mal should really do a Wicksy (AKA craggy old man) shot next... checked this morning and voila!
Not sure Chris would appreciate being referred to as 'grainy and noisy' though?
  • Samarth
  • Great Britain (UK)
  • 12 Oct 2006, 17:22
sorry malwalker, im normally a fan of grain but this is only noise and that i don't like...however he looks a lot like senator palpatine and theats cool....8/10
Mal: The day that Samvader starts fibbing to me will be the day I pack up. All the best master.
  • E Etomi
  • Nigeria
  • 12 Oct 2006, 20:19
I haven't shot in RAW yet. most of this sounds like jargon to me smile
Mal: Thank you Etomi. So much of photographic talk is jargon to me also, if I believed every bit of advertising that I See, I would buy every bit of software out there and this is why i've asked the question. Thank's Etomi. Mal
Good effort but the highlight on the bonce is a bit overwhelming. Noise is OK here. I use CS2 raw converter, does it for me! If noise is a problem and it should not be with the 20D try Noise Nija. or a touch of Gaussian blur, cheaper!
CS2 is as good as anything, mal.
Shot is full of character, by the way!
So Mal, have you sorted out your raw file converter? C1Pro is good but CS2 works just fine. If I were to splash out though I would get Aperture. I use Adobe RGB(1998) for everything - you were asking about SRGB somewhere. Why tiff files and not photoshop?

Don't know why you would want to reduce the grain on this image, it's part of what makes it. Jose

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