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The Dawn Magic

Whitby pier before dawn

 

Most of you will know that I visit the Whitby area 3 or 4 times per month! It simply is a magical place to visit and take photographs. I regularly get there well before dawn to capture images, one thing that I noticed several years ago was this scene before the rise of the sun. The image that you see is not where the sun will rise (the sun rises at this time of year exactly 146º Deg to the right of this light source! There are no towns or light sources over the headland that you see in the distance and this scene only lasts for 10 mins at the most. I have 117 images of this scene at different angles and places but am very puzzled by it.

 

Are there any weather/meteorological experts out there that can explain this phenomenon? I would dearly love to know! This image was captured exactly 22 mins before dawn rose, nearly behind me and to the right.

 

All the best. mal    

The Dawn Magic

Whitby pier before dawn

 

Most of you will know that I visit the Whitby area 3 or 4 times per month! It simply is a magical place to visit and take photographs. I regularly get there well before dawn to capture images, one thing that I noticed several years ago was this scene before the rise of the sun. The image that you see is not where the sun will rise (the sun rises at this time of year exactly 146º Deg to the right of this light source! There are no towns or light sources over the headland that you see in the distance and this scene only lasts for 10 mins at the most. I have 117 images of this scene at different angles and places but am very puzzled by it.

 

Are there any weather/meteorological experts out there that can explain this phenomenon? I would dearly love to know! This image was captured exactly 22 mins before dawn rose, nearly behind me and to the right.

 

All the best. mal    

comments (27)

  • nev
  • Australia
  • 10 Jan 2007, 00:28
They're coming and the comforting thing is that they are going to Whitby first. This is an amazing shot. The only thing i can thinkof is that there is some upper level cloud thing happening that is reflecting the light down. lovely shot
Mal: The jury is still out on the light source Neil, the debate rages. Mal
Again you have taken a simple scene and made something special from it. Well done
Mal: Thank you Neil. Mal
  • Wirld
  • 10 Jan 2007, 06:00
Interesting phenomenon...some kind of 'false dawn' - similar to what we get at times in the free state, south africa.
Lovely photo - really enjoy the almost artificial colours of the pier railing...
Mal: I'd be interested in some info on your false dawns Grant. Mal
Splendid night shot Mal... The pier railing seems in fusion, like a vulcano... great pp Mal !! Extra !
Mal: Thank you Florence, the light on the railings was from the peir sodium lights. Mal
  • Louis
  • 10 Jan 2007, 07:27
A great post again.

I am no expert, but with our vast distances I have many times driven from the dark hour through sunrise into normal daylight. I have experienced the false dawn that wirld refers to, also the ghostly hour in the Karoo and it wreaks havoc with my eyes. In general I know that you see magical sights in this way - things that you can't explain. And then that experience in the Drakensberg that i described - the colour on the clouds were really golden - not anything else.

I know that the orange, red colours of sundown is caused by the dust and in particular silcon particals that reflects. At sundown in a valey or the Karoo plains you can also literally see the dark approaching - bands or clouds of non-light. Dust is caused by activity and many times at night the living these come to rest enough for the dust to settle - why many times you don't have the striking colouring at sunrise than with sunset.

The term noise that we use so freely in photography probably originates from audio engineering. In a city area your reception especially in the olden days would markedly improve from two hours after sunset onwards. The reason that this dust and stuff in the air interfere with the radio signals - it was referred to as noise.

So all i can think is that there is some substance in the air that catches and enhances the first light. This is then picked up and enhanced with your long shutter opening. And since it happens only around Whitby - it would be some localised substance.

Whatever - it does assist in producing great pictures.
Mal: Very interested to hear that noise note Louis, I recon you are right! Thank you. Mal
Very magical indeed, Mal. And now I hope Mary Beth comes up with a good answer! smile
Mal: I'm waiting the guru's response! Mal
  • dafredo
  • 3rd left and 2nd right
  • 10 Jan 2007, 08:38
You live in a great area for picture my friend !!!
As for your question I would say a lot of dwarfs with candles but I doubt it could be that or a nuclear plant or a bunch of painters who did that to bother you? Am I close?
Mal: I think that there would need to be several thusand dwarves for this one! But may be they had extra strong candles! wink Mal
  • Abi
  • 10 Jan 2007, 12:28
simlpy perfect
Mal: Nice to see you back Mr Silo! Mal
great lighting and great sharpness, good one mal
Mal: Thank you Chantal. Mal
  • Jamey
  • 10 Jan 2007, 13:10
Nice shot. Mal, myself and some other bloggers are having our second annual meeting (grand name for a giant piss-up) in Whitby on the 20-22 April. You and Glen would be most welcome. There's a thread about it on trickery forums, located here: http://www.trickery.net/vb/showthread.php?t=40344
Mal: Just checked out the thread, that sounds great Jamey, I'd at least like to join you for a day, maybe all weekend. Mal
  • Iain
  • Toronto, Canada
  • 10 Jan 2007, 13:32
Mal this is spectacular! The warm reflections off the railing columns combined with the distant sunrise is beautiful. The rich blue sky is also stunning and to top it off the small star flares off the three distant light sources just tops it all off. The f16 really worked well for you here. As for the strange light phenomenon going on in the sky, i'm not sure but it made for a nice picture! I love it!
Mal: Lovely comment Iain. I have no idea either! I just snapped it. Mal
Mal, I was going to write the commentary before reading you explanation to the image. He was going to you to say that like it was possible that having the light source to the bottom, the railing was illuminated from you position. He did not understand anything. Now, after reading you text I have realized and I believe that really one is a very strange phenomenon, that has caused that you can take a great photography.
Mal: Thank you Jose. i'm still waiting for the experts to tell me what it was. Mal
Very well captured Mal. I must find my way to Whitby sometime. What an amazing view!
Mal: Give me a call if you are going that way. Mal
  • Suby
  • Milton Keynes, UK
  • 10 Jan 2007, 17:14
Awesome, awesome, I really do have to get out more and take more images like this smile

Suby
Mal: There is only one thing that is awesome round here Subster and that's your new toy! wink Mal
How odd, there must be some answer for this Mal - Fylingdale aliens?
Mal: I had not thought of that angle Chris! And your right, maybe the MOD place is an alien base! wink Mal
  • PhotoSam
  • London, U.K
  • 10 Jan 2007, 17:45
just $%@@#&! brilliant!!!
Mal: Hey Master, a reply like that from you must mean you like it! Olwalker.
  • sk
  • 10 Jan 2007, 17:49
awesome
Mal: Thank you Ade. Mal
  • Claude
  • France
  • 10 Jan 2007, 18:22
Excellent photograph, Mal. Nice composition and perspective. I like the colors as well. Beautiful work!
Mal: Thank you Claude. All the best. Mal
lovely image mal. everything appears perfect with this shot. youve captured the lighting very nicely. i love the deep blue sky and sun rising across the railings and pier. good angle too smile
Mal: Cheers Genevieve, I was very cold when the image was taken! But at least I was dry! wink Mal
  • Clint
  • 10 Jan 2007, 20:09
Spectacular. What else is there to say?
Mal: Thank you Clint. Mal
  • rabby
  • 10 Jan 2007, 20:55
this has 'Mal' written all over it, which means there could be some trickery afoot as we've seen from you before sir...

If not, then maybe the moon is involved? I am no astronomer but maybe the moon is close by the earth at this time and place - reflecting the sunlight on the clouds there??

Ok Rob...wheesht..fascinating shot Mal!!
Mal: I'm still waiting the response from a few shutter experts Rob! Not too much trickery with this one. Mal
  • Steve
  • 10 Jan 2007, 21:21
Very pleasant image Mal. I'm very envious that you can get to such photogenic seaside locations with apparent ease. I've only made it to one since I started on Shutterchance.
Mal: You must book a day in your diary and stick to it Steve! Mal
They've still got you on the meds then Mal....Flashbacks can't be the answer, obviously...otherwise we wouldn't be able to see this, but all the other 170 times...lol. It easy this one. That place over yonder 'tis on fire, lad.
Mal: My meds are working fine Andrew! My voices told me so! wink Mal
  • Ellie
  • England
  • 10 Jan 2007, 23:27
Some sort of refraction I'd think. I know a man who might know the answer, will see what they come up with.

As for the picture, it's gorgeous Mal. The colours are magical, and suit a place like Whitby with its' witches. wink
Mal: I'd be very interested in your friends opinion El! I'm waiting to hear from Marybeth, who knows about such issues.

Got to say though, I much prefer your witches take on it rather than any reality! wink Mal
  • Ellen
  • 15 Jan 2007, 07:25
breath taking. No wonder you are so motivated to get up before sunrise!
  • BeakerSt
  • Shutterchance
  • 23 Jan 2007, 18:59
The colours are magic in this. Again the composition is really really nice. I particularly like the position of the red life ring box smile
Fantastic colours.

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